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<a href="https://www.blogger.com/null" name="OLE_LINK3"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">A letter with some correspondence &amp; a question from Noah
Eli Gordon:<o:p></o:p></span></a></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Dear Ron,<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Since it seems like yr
blog has become somewhat of a forum as of late, I figured I forward you this
email exchange and ask your opinion on the aesthetics of dissent...<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">I sent four poems,
including the following, the most straight-forward of the bunch, to a student
organizing a </span></span><a href="http://www.poetsagainstthewar.org/"><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Poets <span class="GramE">Against</span> the War</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> reading in MA:<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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mirror for the capital<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Decision can</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> still the clock&#8217;s hands,<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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moment in a voluminous straightjacket.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">In the room, six flights underground,<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">two</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> men
wear identical keys around their necks, waiting,<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Rubble, a suffix for the burning city,<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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stitched from the <span class="SpellE">strikepads</span> of empty matchbooks.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">the</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> gutted
chassis of a pickup in black &amp; white.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">arms</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">
splayed as though she could take flight<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">from</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> the
road&#8212;from this heat.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">The body shackles memory beneath the skin,<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">raises</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> a map
of welts:<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">the</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">
blueprints for a massive ark.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">3<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Will a sandbag stop a <span class="GramE">bullet,</span><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">keep</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> a
hot-air balloon from melting near the sun<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Will staring at a solar-eclipse burn the <span class="GramE">retinas,</span><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">is</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> the
reflection in a puddle safe<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Will the rats grow too <span class="GramE">large</span><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">to</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">
squeeze out from under the floorboards<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Will <span class="SpellE">Sacajawea</span> haul her <span class="GramE">child</span><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">out</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> of the
prison of our new coin<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Will she still point toward the <span class="GramE">river</span><o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">what</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">
forgiveness feels like,<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">now</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> I&#8217;d
know to take my finger<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">&amp; trace the mortar<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">between</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> the
bricks<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">of</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> an
abandoned fire station.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">This was the student's
reply:<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Noah,<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>I'm happy to tell you that we have sorted
through the submissions for the "Poetry in Protest" event, and some
of your writing has been approved for the reading. Because of the density of
most of your writing, we suggest that you only read a small piece of "a
black mirror for the capital." We would like you to read only the first
part of the poem, ending with "a coat stitched from the <span class="SpellE">strikepads</span> of empty matchbooks". We felt the rest of
it, while good, was a bit too abstract for the setting.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>We are asking all participating poets to
be at the West <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Lecture Hall of Franklin
Paterson Hall by </span></span><st1:time hour="18" minute="45"><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">6:45</span></span></st1:time><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"> on the night of the
reading, Thursday, March 6. We will get you seated up front at that time, and
give you the details of how the reading will proceed (we haven't figured it all
out yet). There will be a <span class="SpellE">mic</span> for you to use in case
you're a quiet reader. You are encouraged to read slowly, and if you like you
may say a few words about how you feel about the war before you begin your
poem. We want this to be a relaxed and personal event, which is one of the
reasons we opted for one of the smaller lecture halls. <span class="GramE">Looking
forward to seeing you there.</span> Email or call me with any questions. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Sincerely, <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">And here was my reply to
Sean:<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Dear Sean,<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Let me say that it's
great that you've been working on putting together this reading. It's an
important event, important not because it gives folks a chance to read, rather
in that it's able to offer poets a forum to publicly show their dissent against
the atrocious policies of our current government; however, I'm a bit taken
aback at your policing of the aesthetics of dissent. I'd completely understand
if it were merely a question of time constraints, but to use a phrase like
"too abstract for the setting," is problematic for me on two
accounts. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Firstly, it seems to me
to be a judgment not of the effectiveness of the poem to convey whatever it's
attempting to convey, but a judgment of the notion of audience. I take it to
mean that you want to make sure everyone "understands" the poems,
that everyone is able to leave each poem with the sense that, yes, that poem is
against the war, that yes, I get it, which is exactly the problem of war: it's
not that simple. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Secondly, war is just
about the most abstract thing to us Americans that there is. We won't see any
of it on <span class="SpellE"><span class="GramE">tv</span></span>. Our lives will go
on as usual, a bit foggy perhaps with the idea that people are dying somewhere.
War really is the ultimate abstraction. That said, I wanted to let you know
that I just wouldn't feel comfortable reading in such a setting and have
decided that I won't attend the event. I hope it goes well, and again, it's
great that you've been working to bring the event into existence.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Yours,<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Noah Eli Gordon<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">I'm just wondering where
you stand on the issue of poetry of dissent, what is poetry of dissent? It seems
like the last issue of the Poetry <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;">Project newsletter took
some of your comments out of context, so perhaps you could address the issue.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">I asked Sean Bishop for permission
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also suggesting that I should include his response to Noah:<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>I'm sorry our decision upsets you, but I
rather resent your remark about "policing the aesthetics of dissent."
We had to make editorial decisions. These decisions were not always based
entirely on the quality of the work (whatever that word means.) We weren't
judging your capabilities as a poet, but yes, we were making some aesthetic
decisions. The length of your poem was the largest factor in this. A short
abstract poem can be appropriate for a reading setting, but yours is quite
long, and we suspected the audience would be entirely lost by the beginning of
the third page/section. Paul and I both felt that the piece began to lose its
grounding after the first part, which is entirely capable of standing alone as
a poem, and which is really quite striking all by itself.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>You wrote that you thought this was less a
judgment of the effectiveness of the poem to convey its message, and more a
judgment of the audience. In truth, both are true. We don't want everyone to
"get" what every poem means, or to know with certainty that a poem is
"against the war." We do want them to understand the bare bones of
the poem: what is it talking about? <span class="GramE">where</span> is it? <span class="GramE">how</span> does one image lead to another or engage in dialogue
with another? <span class="GramE">the</span> messages insinuated from the imagery
and language of a poem do not need to be comprehended immediately, but for the
purposes of a verbal reading, we felt a certain sense of continuity was
necessary. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>Yes, war is an abstract concept for
Americans. No, the war is not simple. Perhaps I should have used a better word
than "abstract" to explain your poem, but the only other word I could
think of was "convoluted", which sounds like an attack. I'm sorry you
won't be attending the event. You seem to feel that we were searching for a
particular aesthetic, and anyone who didn't fit into that aesthetic was
rejected, which simply isn't true. We have formalists, slam poets, and everyone
in between reading at this event. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">I should say at the outset that I
think both Gordon &amp; Bishop are motivated here by the best possible
intentions &#8211; and their mutual willingness to share this correspondence reflects
that. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">Having said that, the poem &amp;
correspondence itself raises questions. While I think it is possible enough to
argue that the poem loses a little focus in its third section, the second &#8211;
clearly grounded in part by Nick <span class="SpellE">Ut&#8217;s</span> infamous 1972 </span></span><a href="http://www.transom.org/talk/photos/200108.ut.napalm.jpg"><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">photograph</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;"> of nine-year-old </span></span><a href="http://www.iht.com/IHT/TB/00/tb062900a.html"><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">Kim <span class="SpellE">Phuc</span></span></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">
with her clothes burned off by napalm &#8211; can hardly be called either abstract or
convoluted. It&#8217;s one of the most widely recognized visual images associated
with the atrocities of war. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">What I do hear in Bishop&#8217;s words,
especially in his second letter, is a question of intelligibility &amp; yet if
I look at the text of Gordon&#8217;s poem, no such problem even remotely exists. So I
go back to Bishop&#8217;s own words, noting that he argues that the event would have
&#8220;<span class="GramE">formalists,</span> slam poets and everyone in between.&#8221;
That&#8217;s an interesting phrase, precisely because it describes only a narrow
segment of the literary community, maybe 25 percent of the possible range. My
immediate association was to the way in which television, &amp; PBS in
particular, has tended to represent the political left through people like Mark
Shields, a Democrat in name only who positions <span class="GramE">himself</span>
well to the right of center. Thus PBS can have debates between the center and
far right and pretend to be representing the entire spectrum of ideas. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">Bishop underscores my association in
his second letter when he suggests that a reader would not get &#8220;the bare bones
of the poem.&#8221; To not get the bare bones suggests a reading problem as well as
fairly stunning lack of historical memory. If anything, the second section&#8217;s
association of Vietnam&#8217;s brutality with other instances of devastation &#8211; I
think it&#8217;s possible to associate the &#8220;gutted chassis of a pickup&#8221; with both the
first Gulf War &amp; the aftermath of the World Trade Center attack, an
ambiguity I believe Gordon intends: the final image of the &#8220;abandoned fire
station&#8221; is being set up this much in advance.<o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">Bishop&#8217;s phrase reminds me of all
the times I&#8217;ve heard language poetry &#8211; I&#8217;m not suggesting that Gordon is in any
way a langpo or even post-langpo &#8211; described as difficult or unintelligible or,
in the words of Robert Swards immortal review of Clark Coolidge&#8217;s <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Flag Flutter &amp; U.S. Electric</i>,
printed in <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Poetry</i> back in March,
1967, &#8220;a psychedelic outpouring,&#8221; &#8220;verbal hop-scotch,&#8221; &amp; the ever popular
&#8220;chic, trivial piling up of images.&#8221; Bishop doesn&#8217;t go this far with Gordon,
but he doesn&#8217;t need to. The problem in some ways reflects </span></span><st1:personname><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">Kit
 Robinson</span></span></st1:personname><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">&#8217;s wise observation that the only
people who ever found language poetry difficult were a group of graduate
students who no longer knew how to read. Having read my own work in the Maximum
Security Library at Folsom, I know that Robinson&#8217;s take is generally accurate &#8211;
there&#8217;s nothing difficult about such writing unless one brings preconceptions
about poetry to the text that render all but a very narrow range fairly opaque.
I&#8217;m going to test this again tomorrow, when I teach seven fifth-grade classes
at a suburban middle school here on the </span></span><st1:place><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">Main
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">School environments of course are
notorious &#8211; with reason &#8211; for their lack of openness to the new. One can simply
read the reviews of the student John Ashbery in the archives of the </span></span><a href="http://www.thecrimson.com/archives.aspx"><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">Harvard Crimson</span></i></span><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">,
an online archive that goes back to the 19th century. But at least Ashbery
&amp; Koch were noted as student writers there &#8211; Creeley appears to have been
the invisible undergrad. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">I have no idea what Bishop&#8217;s
aesthetic commitments might be, whether he positions himself in that tiny
conceptual slice between slam poetics &amp; formalism &#8211; two genre that depend
mostly on the same literary devices, contextualized differently &#8211; or in the far
broader terrain where the bulk of American poetry has thrived for the past two
centuries. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="mso-bookmark: OLE_LINK3;"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12.0pt;">With regard to Gordon&#8217;s final
question of the forum in the <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">Poetry
Project Newsletter</i>, I&#8217;ve heard about the forum from several people &#8211; one
contributor wrote me an apology &#8211; but I actually haven&#8217;t seen the issue, the
first one I seem to have missed in several years. <o:p></o:p></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">What does Peter Coyote have
in common with Marvin Bell? The same thing that Clayton Eshleman has in common
with Anselm Berrigan, Bill Berkson with Maxine <span class="SpellE">Kumin</span>,
<span class="SpellE">Ursala</span> <span class="SpellE">LeGuin</span> with Julia <span class="SpellE">Vinograd</span>, and Stanley <span class="SpellE">Kunitz</span> with
August Highland. All have participated in Sam <span class="SpellE">Hamill&#8217;s</span>
still-growing poets protest against the war.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">As hokey as the official
chapbook of <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/">Poets Against the War</a> </i>might be, the
website&#8217;s database of more than 5,000 poets is a remarkable collection of the
diversity of American writing, an amazing statement in opposition to a war in
which the shooting has not yet begun. While <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">The
New Criterion&#8217;s </i>Roger Kimball might not recognize these names, here (based
on the most perfunctory scroll through the website&#8217;s index) are a few that
might be familiar to you:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=3428"><span class="SpellE">Addonizio</span>,&nbsp;Kim</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=571"><span class="SpellE">Alarcón</span>,&nbsp;Francisco X.</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=5982"><span class="SpellE">Alcalay</span>,&nbsp;<span class="SpellE">Ammiel</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=269">Alexander,&nbsp;Charles</a></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1693">Alison,&nbsp;Dorothy
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=6573"><span class="SpellE">Aplon</span>,&nbsp;Roger</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=5460"><span class="SpellE">Balaban</span>,&nbsp;John</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=82"><span class="SpellE">Ballardini</span>,&nbsp;<span class="SpellE">Anny</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=5160">Barks,&nbsp;Coleman</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1970"><span class="SpellE">Barnstone</span>,&nbsp;Willis</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=515">Bass,&nbsp;Ellen</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=838">Behrle,&nbsp;Jim</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1290">Blumenthal,&nbsp;Michael</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=444">Marcus,&nbsp;Morton</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=5231">Matson,&nbsp;Clive</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=6097">McVay,&nbsp;Gwyn</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=382">Meltzer,&nbsp;David</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=6306"><span class="SpellE">Menefee</span>,&nbsp;Sarah</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=3441"><span class="SpellE">Merwin</span>,&nbsp;W.S.</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=5581">Metzger,&nbsp;<span class="SpellE">Deena</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=771">Miller,&nbsp;Jane</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=3320">Mohammad,&nbsp;K.
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1914"><span class="SpellE">Montag</span>,&nbsp;Tom</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=5777">Moore,&nbsp;Daniel
<span class="SpellE">Abdal-Hayy</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=579"><span class="SpellE">Moramarco</span>,&nbsp;Fred</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=537">Moure,&nbsp;Erin</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=239"><span class="SpellE">Muske</span>-Dukes,&nbsp;Carol</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=474">Myles,&nbsp;Eileen</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=2967"><span class="SpellE">Napora</span>,&nbsp;Joe</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1208">Nelson,&nbsp;Marilyn</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=2423"><span class="SpellE">Newth</span>,&nbsp;Rebecca</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=5840"><span class="SpellE">Niatum</span>,&nbsp;Duane</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=764">Olson,&nbsp;John</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=5459">Orr,&nbsp;Gregory</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1781">Ortiz,&nbsp;Simon</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=3217"><span class="SpellE">Orvino</span>,&nbsp;Jennie</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=2211"><span class="SpellE">Ossman</span>,&nbsp;David </a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=4400"><span class="SpellE">Ostriker</span>,&nbsp;Alicia </a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1673">Padgett,&nbsp;Ron
</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1307">Palmer,&nbsp;Michael</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1419">Piombino,&nbsp;Nick</a></span><span style="font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=987"><span class="SpellE">Pollitt</span>,&nbsp;<span class="SpellE">Katha</span></a></span><span style="font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=138">Randall,&nbsp;Belle</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1186">Randall,&nbsp;Margaret</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=352">Raphael,&nbsp;Dan</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=2183">Ray,&nbsp;David</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1601">Retallack,&nbsp;Joan
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=724">Reyes,&nbsp;Carlos</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=5457">Rich,&nbsp;Adrienne</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=2198">Rodney,&nbsp;Janet</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=2023"><span class="SpellE">Rogow</span>,&nbsp;Zack</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1235">Ronk,&nbsp;Martha</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=3205">Root,&nbsp;William
Pitt</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=4130">Rothenberg,&nbsp;Jerome</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=461">Rothschild,&nbsp;Douglas</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1309"><span class="SpellE">Rumaker</span>,&nbsp;Michael</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1593">Saner,&nbsp;<span class="SpellE">Reg</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=655">Schulman,&nbsp;Grace</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1671">Scott,&nbsp;Peter
Dale</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=5501"><span class="SpellE">Seidman</span>,&nbsp;Hugh</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=5637">Skratz,&nbsp;G.
P.</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=2774"><span class="GramE">Snodgrass,&nbsp;W. D.</span> </a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=2346"><span class="SpellE">Spivak</span>,&nbsp;Kathleen</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=2340">Stern,&nbsp;Gerald</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1857">Stewart,&nbsp;Susan</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=2289"><span class="SpellE">Strongin</span>,&nbsp;Lynn </a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=6233">Stroud,&nbsp;Joseph</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=2017"><span class="SpellE">Swensen</span>,&nbsp;Cole </a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=981">Swenson,&nbsp;Karen</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=106"><span class="SpellE">Sze</span>,&nbsp;Arthur</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=3873"><span class="SpellE">Tabios</span>,&nbsp;Eileen</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=400">Tall,&nbsp;Deborah</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1405">Tarn,&nbsp;Nathaniel</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=318"><span class="SpellE">Tepper</span>,&nbsp;Craig</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=5944">Thomas,&nbsp;Heather</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=491">Torres,&nbsp;Edwin</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=291">Tysh,&nbsp;Chris</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1486">Vangelisti,&nbsp;Paul</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1812">Vincent,&nbsp;Stephen</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=6594"><span class="SpellE">Vinograd</span>,&nbsp;Julia</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=76">Waldman,&nbsp;Anne</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=3026"><span class="SpellE">Weigl</span>,&nbsp;Bruce</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1986">Whitney,&nbsp;J.D.</a></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=1393">Willard,&nbsp;Nancy</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=2057"><span class="SpellE">Wilner</span>,&nbsp;Eleanor</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=2409"><span class="SpellE">Yourcenar</span>,&nbsp;Joy</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=5671">Zamora,&nbsp;Daisy</a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10.0pt;"><a href="http://poetsagainstthewar.org/displaypoem.asp?AuthorID=704"><span class="SpellE">Zinnes</span>,&nbsp;Harriet </a><o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Not all of these links lead
to poems &#8211; several are statements of conscience. And I&#8217;m sure that as my eyes
literally glazed over the table of contents, I missed a lot of other obvious
&#8220;name brand&#8221; poets. The list above represents less than four percent of what
can be found at the website and I heartily recommend scrolling through &amp;
reading widely. One way to start is to read everything from your neck of the
woods. Collectively, it has that mind-numbing, awe-inspiring overwhelming
quality I will always associate with the AIDS Quilt. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Given the balkanization of
American letters &amp; Sam <span class="SpellE">Hamill&#8217;s</span> own
less-than-innocent role in same &#8211; the site&#8217;s chapbook itself underscores the
problem perfectly &#8211; I think it takes an enormous amount of goodwill &amp; sense
of urgency to send a poem or statement to this project. That so many American
(&amp; a few Canadian) poets have done so is a testament to the lateness of the
hour &amp; the importance of the idea. If/when this war <span class="GramE">begins,</span>
these writers are on record that George W&#8217;s assault on the people of </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Iraq</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span style="font-family: Arial;"> is not being conducted in our name. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">One of the great lessons of
the Vietnam War is that a nation of people opposed to a foreign war can
actually constrain &amp; eventually halt that conflict. Unfortunately, one of
the other lessons of that war is that this process takes time. Between the
so-called </span><st1:place><st1:placetype><span style="font-family: Arial;">Gulf</span></st1:placetype><span style="font-family: Arial;"> of </span><st1:placename><span style="font-family: Arial;">Tonkin</span></st1:placename></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;"> incident on </span><st1:date day="4" month="8" year="1964"><span style="font-family: Arial;">4 August 1964</span></st1:date><span style="font-family: Arial;"> and the day when the last Huey pulled the final
refugees off of the roof of the </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">U.S.</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span style="font-family: Arial;"> embassy in </span><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Saigon</span></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;"> in April,
1975, eleven years, over 50,000 American &amp; millions of Vietnamese lives
were wasted. The current regime in </span><st1:state><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Washington</span></st1:place></st1:state><span style="font-family: Arial;"> doesn&#8217;t know much about history books, but it does
know that a &#8220;surgical strike&#8221; campaign, a war that can be measured in months or
even weeks, is politically feasible.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Today was the day that </span><st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">Laura</span></st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;"> Bush originally set aside to invite a few poets to the White House to
discuss Whitman, Hughes &amp; Dickinson under the banner of &#8221;Poetry and The
American Voice.&#8221; This event won&#8217;t happen because one of the invited poets, Sam
Hamill, turned out to be a conservative only in his aesthetics. Hamill, as
concerned as any American about the impending disaster, sent out an email to
some friends:<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10.0pt; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;">I am asking every poet
to speak up for the conscience of our country and lend his or her name to our
petition against this war, and to make February 12 a day of Poetry <span class="GramE">Against</span> the War. We will compile an anthology of protest to
be presented to the White House on that afternoon.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">That email spread like a
computer virus, replicating over &amp; over again until virtually every poet in
the country must have received it at least once. I know that I stopped counting
the copies I received when it got into double digits.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Somewhere along the way,
somebody &#8211; it would interesting to know just who &#8211; thought to let Ms. Bush know
of this impending anthology &amp; the event was cancelled, generating several
articles in the media. As it turned out, the poet laureates of both </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Canada</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span style="font-family: Arial;"> <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">and </i>the </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">United States</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span style="font-family: Arial;"> weighed in against the war. </span><st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">Todd Swift</span></st1:personname><span style="font-family: Arial;">&#8217;s ad-hoc antiwar anthologies got some media
attention that they almost certainly would not otherwise have received.
Editorial writers generally took the line that &#8220;poets will be poets,&#8221; which,
condescending as it certainly is, at least acknowledges the historic opposition
to war &amp; brutality that many &#8211; but by no means all &#8211; poets have shown over
the years. Even less surprisingly, writers who function professionally as right
wing commentators, such as Roger Kimball &amp; J. <span class="SpellE">Bottum</span>,
both invited to the cancelled soiree, weighed in to scold their peers for a
lack of manners, a curious way to balance the impolite bombing of the citizens
of </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Iraq</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span style="font-family: Arial;"> whose only crime is to have failed to oust a brutal
&amp; murderous dictator. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Since then, there have been
plenty of opportunities for second-guessing. <span class="SpellE">Hamill&#8217;s</span>
website has reminded everyone of what they knew all along &#8211; he&#8217;s really a
conservative as a poet, even if he does oppose the war. His &#8220;chapbook&#8221; in fact
reflects an establishmentarian poetics that wants more than anything to retain
its role as just that. Others have suggested that attending the event &amp;
making a scene there might have generated even more media attention to the
rapid arrival of a wide-spread &amp; popular opposition to Bush&#8217;s war. I&#8217;m a
skeptic on that one myself. I think that <span class="SpellE">Hamill&#8217;s</span> email
took on a life of its own precisely because there is such widespread
opposition. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">But what <span class="GramE">concerns</span>
me is not the usual &#8211; &amp; ultimately petty &#8211; divisions between traditions of
poetry. I am experiencing emotions that I suspect many Germans must have felt
in the late 1930s: <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;">my </i>government is
about to rain death onto the world in great quantity. The legitimate safety of
the nation in which I live, one ostensible reason for this, can only be damaged
by any invasion of </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Iraq</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span style="font-family: Arial;">. The other reasons for an invasion &#8211; ranging from
the importance of upholding UN resolutions to Iraqi connections to al Qaeda &#8211;
all fall into the categories of dubious to laughable. The history of the </span><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Soviet Union</span></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;"> has demonstrated that containment works against far
stronger foes than Saddam Hussein. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Which
leaves only one plausible rationale for sending troops into </span></span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial;">Iraq</span></span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial;">: the liberation of the Iraqi
people.</span></span><span style="font-family: Arial;"> I&#8217;m certainly sympathetic
to that argument &amp; can understand why left intellectuals from Ellen Willis
to <span class="SpellE">Salman</span> Rushdie could be persuaded of the need for
force to oust a genuinely barbaric dictator. But I have two problems with this
argument itself &#8211; first is a rather long list of other nations that would, by
logic, then force us to engage. Hussein may be the worst of a bad lot, but he is
hardly alone. The second is that, from an Iraqi perspective, the last nation on
earth I would to become an involuntary protectorate of would be the </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">United States</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span style="font-family: Arial;">. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Far from &#8220;helping to spread
democracy&#8221; to other Middle-Eastern states, the Bush strategy is a recipe for
long-term destabilization of an entire region, stretching from sub-Saharan </span><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Africa</span></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;"> and extending to the western provinces of </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">China</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span style="font-family: Arial;"> &amp; the <span class="GramE">Philippine<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>archipelago</span>. And, as should be
apparent to anyone in the post-September 11<sup>th</sup> world, destabilization
abroad can have profound consequences at home as well. Any attempt to stretch
our military dominance over such a vast terrain &#8211; one that includes or touches
at least four nuclear states &#8211; would require a transformation of the American
economy toward a fortress </span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">America</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span style="font-family: Arial;"> prepared for permanent conflict. It is no accident
that no nation in history has been able to sustain an empire &#8211; the costs far
outweigh any riches reaped. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">What can be done to halt
this disaster before it occurs? <span class="GramE">Short of a massive general
strike in the </span></span><st1:country-region><st1:place><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial;">United States</span></span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span class="GramE"><span style="font-family: Arial;">, virtually nothing.</span></span><span style="font-family: Arial;"> The present regime has already demonstrated that it
will not listen to the majority &#8211; that isn&#8217;t how it got into office, nor an
impulse it has had even for one day since taking power. </span><st1:city><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">Furth</span></st1:place></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;">er, it has subsequently consolidated power in all
three branches of federal government.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">Poets need to continue to
speak out, to demonstrate to the world the absolute lack of consensus the
actions of this regime have, to point to the hypocrisies &amp; to call
attention to all of the various new threats on democracy and justice that emanate
from the axis of evil situated between </span><st1:place><st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;">Crawford</span></st1:city><span style="font-family: Arial;">, </span><st1:state><span style="font-family: Arial;">Texas</span></st1:state></st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">, and the White House. But nobody, poets most of all,
should be </span><st1:state><st1:place><span style="font-family: Arial;">del</span></st1:place></st1:state><span style="font-family: Arial;">uded into thinking that this by itself constitutes
effective action. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">The problem that poets have
is one that we share with all progressives &#8211; the forces who promote this
conflict have dramatically reorganized &amp; transformed themselves since the
1960s. Progressives continue to use the same tools that took so very long to work
four decades ago that millions died needlessly. Unless &amp; until we can
transform that imbalance, more to the American Voice than just poetry will
continue to go unheard.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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